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Did you have any conversations with Danny and the writers about the inspirations behind that scene, or why they ended up writing it that way?
Stephen: There was a shift in the script while we were filming.
Tim: Originally, BJ lost the fight. I don’t want to spoil anything, but in the season finale, BJ behaved in a certain way. And Danny switched it so that BJ wins the fight, and Judy behaves that way. I remember I was driving home and Danny called and was like, “Hey, I just did a rewrite in episode six.” I’m driving in the back roads in South Carolina, so service is going in and out and I’m not quite understanding what he’s saying. I got home, I read it, and I was like, “Oh, wow, okay. I understand why they made this shift.” All the Gemstones, they behave from a place of suffering. And they have so much money that they don’t necessarily feel the consequences of their behaviors sometimes because they have status over these people. Well, all the characters face that this season.
What did you think once you finally got to watch the scene?
Stephen: I haven’t seen it.
Tim: Oh, buddy. Oh, dude, just wait.
Stephen: I’m terrified, dude. Honestly, I’m very nervous about it. I feel like there’s my life before this aired, and then there’s my life after it aired. And I think I’m not married after that point.
Tim: No, you’re well represented in the range that you speak of. But the brutality. One thing that Jonathan Watson had told us, Stephen specifically, he was like, “You’re like T-1000 as you go through this fight. Just emotionless, brutal.” BJ’s worked himself up to a point where he thinks this is a good idea, even though it’s so out of character. And when he realizes that he’s in over his head, he wanted Stephen to be emotionless, just destroying me through the house and out into the yard.
And this took a day and a half to film?
Tim: Yeah. We finished outside at golden hour in freezing drizzling rain.
Stephen: Yeah, I was like, guys, I need five minutes. I run to the bathroom. I’m looking at pictures of my wife trying to get some blood flow down there. They’re like, “Stephen, we need you. We’re losing light.” The thing with my penis is it has range. It can be Al Pacino or it can be like Danny DeVito.
Tim: It’s like Abraham Lincoln’s face. They said from every angle it looked different. And believe me, I got close enough to know.
SAG-AFTRA members are currently on strike; as part of the strike, union actors are not promoting their film and TV projects. This interview was conducted prior to the strike.
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